Black Gal, White Guy discusses the events of Charlottesville within a larger discussion of how to respond nonviolently to extreme hatred.

  • Listener question: How do we deal with the pendulum swinging too far the other way to leave boys and men behind? (0:35)
  • Steve’s recommendation: a meme “Racism scale: where do you fall” from the Medium article “How America Spreads the Disease that is Racism by not Confronting Racist Family Members and Friends” (image below). (11:01)
  • Ebony’s recommendation: A Syllabus for White People to Educate Themselves by Christena Cleveland. (14:02)
  • Ebony responds to Accidental Courtesy, one of Steve’s previous recommendations. (17:00)
  • How Christians dedicated to peace and justice can best show up in times with so much explicit hatred including neo-Nazis and the KKK. (22:23)
  • Whether there are any exceptions to the Anabaptist non-violence ethic. (27:20)
  • Ebony’s feelings on the position of non-violence. (30:39)
  • How Steve responds to others who will use violence toward the same goals, such as anarchists and antifa groups. (37:44)

Scale reflecting different racist sentiments

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