Category: Black Gal, White Guy

BGWG 14: Farewell

Ebony and Steve return for one more episode of Black Gal, White Guy to say farewell to the show as they move on to focus on other things. Some of the topics include:

Steve’s recommendation: the podcast VS. (1:38)
Ebony’s recommendation: Emergent Strategy by Adrienne Maree Brown (3:55)
Ebony and the Kinky Curly Theological Collective (8:20)
Steve and Village of Hope leaving Portland (14:45)
Ebony’s concerns (23:55)
Steve giving space for other voices (27:50)
Ebony’s parting words for listeners (31:25)
Steve’s parting words for listeners (35:15)

Note: they did actually record this a while ago and I (Ryan, the editor and distributor) did not realize it until recently – I had stopped regularly checking after they told me they were wrapping up, so I didn’t realize they had recorded one more episode a few weeks later. Oops.

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BGWG 13: Kinky Curly Theological Collective

Ebony and Steve return for an episode of Black Gal, White Guy where they talk about Ebony’s recent work with the Kinky Curly Theological Collective. Topics today include:

Ebony’s recommendations: Black Panther (2018) and A Hidden Wholeness by Parker Palmer (0:54)
Steve’s recommendations: I Am Not Your Negro (2016) and A Time for Burning (1967) (3:21)
An update from Steve on the Village of Hope (6:27)
Introducing the Kinky Curly Theological Collective and why it is necessary (9:19)
Creating a context where women and people of color can safely speak up (18:51)
What about unity when only some voices are speaking in KCTC? (27:08)
The technology behind KCTC: face-to-face meetings in Minnesota (34:34)

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BGWG 12: Villages

Ebony and Steve return to discuss the houseless crisis in Portland, Oregon. Topics include:

Steve’s recommendation: Faith in the Face of Empire by Mitri Raheb (1:10)
Ebony’s recommendation: Rethinking Incarceration by Dominique Gilliard, a fellow MennoNerd (3:56)
Introducing the Portland houseless crisis (5:37)
Next step for Steve’s ministry and for Portland: establishing villages (12:02)
The idea of a village and how it helps (17:21)
How to keep these villages from being torn down by government officials or residents who are antagonistic to the houseless population (19:44)
What else can do for this cause (23:43)

If you want to connect with Steve about this work, email stevekimes@aol.com. If you have questions or comments for Ebony and Steve about the show, email bgwg@mennonerds.com.
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BGWG 11: Political Parties

Ebony and Steve return with a new episode of Black Gal, White Guy in which they discuss political parties. Sub-topics covered in this episode include:

Ebony’s recommendation: Kindred by Octavia Butler (0:59)
Steve’s recommendation: Faces at the Bottom of the Well by Derrick Bell (3:39)
Doug Jones winning the Alabama Senate seat (9:50)
Black women carrying Jones to victory (12:30)
Steve is still cynical about American politics (15:57)
The flaws of a two-party system (24:59)
Churches promoting political partisanship is a problem, but Christians still need to be politically active (29:54)

Questions or comments for Ebony and Steve? Email bgwg@mennonerds.com.
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BGWG 10: Jesus and Social Justice

Ebony and Steve discuss the importance of social justice within Christianity, particularly focusing on Steve’s story.

Steve’s recommendation of the week (1:37)
Ebony’s recommendation of the week (3:57)
Steve’s conversion experience(s) and how he came to see social justice as central to faith (9:09)
Steve doesn’t recommend that everybody tries to do what he does, but every church/every Christian much actively care about the poor and other outcasts (32:19)
Jesus was political (38:23)

Questions for Ebony and Steve? Email bgwg@mennonerds.com
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BGWG 9: Mission

Ebony and Steve discuss the topic of mission, and how that important calling often has been tied up and confused with Eurocentric/US-centric colonialism. Topics include:

Ebony’s recommendation: the Kinky Curly Theological Collective (1:20)
Steve’s recommendation: The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk M.D. (4:58)
Steve and Ebony’s history with missions (11:42)
The connection between mission and colonialism (15:47)
Examples of American syncretism into Christianity (19:20)
The need for humility in cultures where you don’t know as well as they do, but they still look to you as the American expert (22:44)

Questions or comments for Ebony and Steve? Email bgwg@mennonerds.com.
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BGWG 8: Me Too

Ebony and Steve discuss the recent viral #MeToo campaign and the rampant sexual assault and harassment being exposed across multiple industries. Some topics include:

Steve’s recommendation: the podcast Code Switch by NPR (2:06)
Ebony’s recommendation: Evicted by Matthew Desmond (3:55)
The #MeToo campaign going viral and the pervasiveness of sexual assault (8:22)
Defining sexual assault and sexual harassment (16:59)
Sexuality as a partnership, not a right (26:26)
Masturbation: a necessary release or a lack of self-control? (28:09)
Honest conversations about sex in the Church (40:21)
Stop demonizing women  (42:38)
Teach men and boys they don’t have the right to women (44:04)
Talk about rape myths from the pulpit, making it clear they are myths, such as the myth that most reported sexual assaults are false (46:44)
Hear people’s stories, women’s stories when they are ready and also men repenting (48:34)
Hear women’s perspectives on Scripture (50:25)

Ebony later blogged some more thoughts on the masturbation conversation here: https://ebonyjohanna.com/2017/12/14/metoo-power-consent-and-sexual-desire/
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BGWG 7: Climate Change

Ebony and Steve return for another episode of Black Gal, White Guy to discuss climate change. Topics include:

Ebony’s recommendation: Faces at the Bottom of the Well by Derrick Bell (1:55)
Steve’s recommendation: When Helping Hurts by Steve Corbett and Brian Fikkert (5:11)
Global weirding, denial of climate change, and why we need to care (9:03)
How climate change affects some more harshly than others (21:54)
Media representation of disasters and how they vary based on who is affected (27:30)
Prioritizing how to respond with so many disasters (31:37)

To contact BGWG, email bgwg@mennonerds.com (not mennonerds.net as Steve accidentally says at the end).
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BGWG 6: Housing Crisis

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Ebony Adedayo and Steve Kimes return for another episode of Black Gal, White Guy, this time to discuss the housing crisis in the United States. Topics for this episode include:

Steve’s recommendation: Gospel rock and roll artists (1:50)
Ebony’s recommendation: self care practices (5:09)
The housing crisis in Minnesota (11:19)
The housing crisis in Oregon (20:07)
A hospitality problem, not a housing problem (26:16)
Why does this matter? (33:40)

Relevant Links
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2016/02/the-problem-of-resegregation-in-suburbia/462396/
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2016/02/brooklyn-park-minnesota-suburbia-affordable-housing/461955/
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2016/02/when-integrating-the-suburbs-isnt-enough/462765/
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BGWG 5: Reconciliation

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Ebony Adedayo and Steve Kimes discuss the topics of forgiveness and reconciliation, specifically in the context of racism. The discussion includes:

Ebony’s recommendation: the album The Transition of Mali by Mali Music (0:56)
Steve’s recommendation: Scene on Radio podcast, Seeing White series (2:42)
Does racism against people of color in America still exist? (4:28)
Affirmative action, which mostly helps white women (10:10)
Is it lacking in the quality of forgiveness to bring up racial inequality issues such as police brutality? (17:19)
The parable in Matthew 18 (20:04)
Forcing the oppressed to forgive (25:28)
How do we achieve true reconciliation? (29:14)
The economics of forgiveness (33:08)

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BGWG 4: Nonviolence

Black Gal, White Guy discusses the events of Charlottesville within a larger discussion of how to respond nonviolently to extreme hatred.

Listener question: How do we deal with the pendulum swinging too far the other way to leave boys and men behind? (0:35)
Steve’s recommendation: a meme “Racism scale: where do you fall” from the Medium article “How America Spreads the Disease that is Racism by not Confronting Racist Family Members and Friends” (image below). (11:01)
Ebony’s recommendation: A Syllabus for White People to Educate Themselves by Christena Cleveland. (14:02)
Ebony responds to Accidental Courtesy, one of Steve’s previous recommendations. (17:00)
How Christians dedicated to peace and justice can best show up in times with so much explicit hatred including neo-Nazis and the KKK. (22:23)
Whether there are any exceptions to the Anabaptist non-violence ethic. (27:20)
Ebony’s feelings on the position of non-violence. (30:39)
How Steve responds to others who will use violence toward the same goals, such as anarchists and antifa groups. (37:44)

To email Ebony and Steve, send to bgwg@mennonerds.com.
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BGWG 3: Feminism

Black Gal, White Guy returns for their third episode to discuss feminism. Topics include:

Ebony’s recommendation: Frontiers in Catholic Feminist Theology: Shoulder to Shoulder (0:48)
Steve’s recommendation: Accidental Courtesy streaming on PBS and Netflix (2:35)
What does feminism mean? Women holding all the power having an Amazonian society with no men? (5:48)
Haven’t we already achieved a post-sexist society where feminism is no longer necessary? (8:48)
Is feminism in opposition to men, or in opposition to patriarchy? Are men also hurt by patriarchy? (10:58)
What about Jesus? Does Jesus agree with feminism? (14:15)
What about Paul? Wasn’t he clearly misogynistic? (20:19)
If our church was going to be feminist, what would that look like? (26:52)

Send emails with questions or comments to Ebony and Steve at bgwg@mennonerds.com.
More relevant resources:

Kurt Willems on the Paulcast, series on Paul and Women
Coming soon on this podcast: an interview with Carol Penner about Feminist Theology

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BGWG 2: The Decriminalization of Drugs

Ebony and Steve return for the second episode of Black Gal, White Guy. In this show, they discuss movements to decriminalize drug possession including new legislation in Steve’s state of Oregon. The episode includes further discussion on topics like the racial elements of the war on drugs and the need to treat addicts as somebody in need of help, not somebody to be excessively punished.
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